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Breaking: No Action on Gay Marriage

The U.S. Supreme Court may consider the 10 same-sex marriage cases Monday, national media is reporting.

The Supreme Court will not act on gay marriage, the Wall Street Journal and numerous sources on Twitter are reporting.

After much anticipation, court deferred 10 cases related to same-sex marriage Friday.

The Atlantic shared this update on its website, The Wire:

"The Supreme Court, after taking most of the day to prepare new orders, took no action Friday on the ten same-sex marriage cases now on the docket," reports the SCOTUS blog's  Lyle Denniston

But the issue is not dead. The court could next issue orders at 9:30 a.m. Monday.

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The future of same-sex unions in California could be decided Friday, if the U.S. Supreme Court decides to take up Prop. 8, the ban on gay marriage that voters approved in California four years ago.

The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals struck down Prop. 8 in February, ruling the law unconstitutional. Prop. 8 supporters then appealed to the country's highest court.

The Los Angeles Times gave this concise summary of Friday's possible outcomes:

If the justices opt not to hear the Proposition 8 case, then a federal appeals court ruling that found the 2008 state ballot measure banning same-sex marriage unconstitutional would stand, clearing the way for marriages to begin. If the justices take up the case, a ruling would not come until next year and gay marriage would remain on hold until then, or longer depending on how the court rules.

Prop. 8 passed with 52 percent of the vote in 2008. Since then, nine states have approved same-sex marriage.

This chronology of the history of gay marriage on the LA Times explains the complex road that has led to today.

Supporters of gay marriage hailed February's favorable appellate court ruling. In its decision, the court stated that banning same-sex marriage "serves no purpose, and has no effect, other than to lessen the status and human dignity of gays and lesbians in California and to officially reclassify their relationship and families as inferior to those of opposite-sex couples."

Prop. 8 is one of several same-sex marriage cases that the US Supreme Court could choose to hear. Most of the others challenge the constitutionality of the Defense of Marriage Act.

For all of the cases, the court's decision to not hear arguments would actually do more than putting them on the agenda for next term. Read about those impacts here.

What are your thoughts? Should the appellate court ruling stand and same-sex marriage be allowed? Or was Prop. 8 the right decision to begin with? Tell us in the comment section below.

This story will be updated with the court's decision.

Sarah Creeley December 3, 2012 at 11:50 am
BREAKING NEWS! Measure 8 is NOT on Supreme Court's list!
State Court of Appeal's ruling that Measure 8 is unconstitutional stands! Today is a GREAT DAY for EQUALITY!
Novato Native December 3, 2012 at 01:47 pm
Richard,
The 14th amendment is considered in many cases ranging from criminal cases, like the three strikes law, to civil procedure cases. It was not intended or interpreted to apply to that narrow class of people, and courts have used it to strike down all kinds of laws that don't pertain to slave's rights. While that may be how you interpret and observe the 14th amendment, you're alone in that understanding and the courts have never applied it in the manner you're suggesting.
Novato Native December 3, 2012 at 02:07 pm
rmondell,
The courts do not abuse their authority by striking down laws that are at their core, unconstitutional. Marriage, in the civil sense should not be denied to same sex couples. I have yet to see an argument against gay marriage that doesn't call on the "traditional family" definition or that relies on religious beliefs. The role of the government is not to protect the interests of religion, but to protect the interests of the people. For now, you can argue that the people are against gay marriage, but I'm willing to bet that the Supreme Court is just waiting for more states to legalize gay marriage. Many court decisions are based on public policy and the court recognizes that societal values and morals change and that laws need to change with those morals. Yes, there is a slim majority against gay marriage now, but the minority trend approving gay marriage could soon become the majority rule, and the court could easily make a public policy argument along with a 14th amendment argument that denying same sex couples the benefits of heterosexual couples does not comport with evolving standards of decency. You can look to the intent of the 14th amendment and see that it was enacted to give equal protection to ALL PEOPLE under the law, not just slaves. If the intent was to extend rights to slaves, it would specified that intent. Gay people are a part of all people, and prop 8 denies them rights granted to some people, so prop 8 does not extend equal protection to all.
Novato Native December 3, 2012 at 02:35 pm
Rmondell,
The 14th amendment does not only apply to criminal cases and has been used in several other cases to argue for equality and judges have acknowledge that this is a legitimate argument to be made from the 14th amendment. If they did not think the 14th amendment provided this protection, courts would not hear 14th amendment equality arguments. You may see the 14th amendment in that way, but the courts do not, and it is not only California courts that allow equality under the equal protection clause.
Frank Geefay December 3, 2012 at 03:15 pm
As I said, rmodell, there are conservative justices such as Scalia who view the Constitution as a fixed standard. That represents only one point of view. In fact the Supreme Court has unquestionably overruled Laws throughout its history that were voted for by the majority. That in large part is why the Supreme Court exists. So the facts do not support your argument. I will agree that in the majority of cases voted laws don't even come before the Supreme Court because they have not been challenged as being unconstitutional. But to generalize and say that all laws voted by the majority are binding is simply not true.
What if the roles were reversed and the majority of voters voted to make same sex marriages legal. Would you uphold that law because it was a majority vote or would you challenge it in the Supreme Court to overthrow it? This could well happen in the future. Where would you stand then on the Court's powers to overrule a majority vote. Remember you need to be consistent.
Novato Native December 3, 2012 at 03:18 pm
rmondell,
Those are the courts words, not mine. The Supreme Court refers to evolving standards of decency with respect to cases that question the constitutionality of the death penalty and I don't see why it would only apply to those cases. The court considered those standards when deciding that the death penalty was not cruel and unusual punishment and it did not deprive guilty defendants of life without due process of law. The court saw that society still valued the death penalty and upheld statutes that were specific enough about death penalty sentences. Society has standards about almost every facet of life and using those standards to come to a decision in one case and not another does not make sense. Society has standards regarding same sex marriage, and if those standards call for the legalization of gay marriage, then the court will probably find a ban on it unconstitutional and a violation of the 14th amendment and that evolving standards of decency call for marriage equality. I'm just trying to say don't be surprised if you find this language in a ruling that finds prop 8 unconstitutional. Courts are rarely bound by just the laws and the two ways to interpret the constitution.
Frank Geefay December 3, 2012 at 03:26 pm
True, but until the Supreme Court makes a ruling the low court's ruling is valid and binding. But until the Supreme Court rules against Prop. 8 gay couples will not have federal equal protections or benefits. This is one of the reasons why it is important that the Court make a ruling one way or another.
Sarah Creeley December 3, 2012 at 09:49 pm
Hi Chris, I went to IVC, too! I did props for Midsummer Night's Dream in an outdoor presentation at IVC. Is their symbol still an oak tree? I agree so much with your writing. I am heterosexual and I can't imagine being forced into a different orientation. Like you, I know many good responsible people who are gay. I think if people really cared about humanity, they would care about hate crimes of violence against gay persons. They would care that hateful villification can lead to a child committing suicide. By the way, I grew up in Bolinas, Tam High, class of 75. One of my parent's friends, Allen Ginsberg, a great American poet, like my dad, Robert Creeley, was suicidal at 15, and grew to love himself after his therapist told him his survival depended on coming out of the closet. My best friend in college at SFSU was beaten on a Muni bus, simply because he was gay. He stayed in the closet which I think is so sad. Our country becomes stronger when we care about each other and we all learn to love ourselves.
Homes & Estates Liquidation Providers H.E.L.P. December 3, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Discrimination is illegal and unconstitutional. It was voted on and the gays won!
john currie December 3, 2012 at 11:31 pm
its not equal its special....how many times do the people of this Country say its good to have a choice to live your life the way you want to.... just quit telling me /us its a marriage.. Marriage is a old Jewish/Christian ceremony uniting a man and women in faith of God in front of family and community.. The world adopted it legalistically a few hundred years ago. You can have civil union... and protections as special class..... and shouldnt that be enough.. dont and quit telling me your lifestyle is "OK". I dont agree. shouldnt that be enough.. you want to overturn what America has repeatedly said.. voted ... NO ... to you! and that Marriage Is Between a Man and a Woman.
If your first arguement is I am a racict or biggit or homo hater or just a hater... I grew up in the 1960 and 1970 .. k the 80's to and a little of the 90's here in the Bay Area. I believe, respect, support and care for everyone of my neighbors, I just tired of militant affermative action forceful people shoving this issue in my face. Its sex we are talking about and can that please become a private issue again. In the privacy of you own home. Again. I respect you and your privacy. I would protect that privacy. OK now i just feel like ranting so ill drop it here. Please calm down and bring your sexual issues back to your private places and quit telling me I have to accept you or teach my family its OK. I dont agree!
john currie December 3, 2012 at 11:34 pm
Its SEX we are talking about and can that please become a private issue again. In the privacy of your own home.
Sarah Creeley December 4, 2012 at 01:09 am
Hi John, I say this with respect to you and your posts, why are you trying to force YOUR theology on me? Can you see how hypocritical you are being? You want something private because in YOUR mind this is all about sex. Married much?
I don't think so, because I was married, and for me it was all about LOVE. How you can appoint yourself King and try to dictate your religion as though it is the law, well I am thrilled to be the one to inform you John Currie, this is AMERICA, and in our country we have guiding principles that include equality. I feel SO LUCKY to live in a country with freedom. Times are changing John, deal with it. I hope you find a way to open your heart to all people.
Sarah Creeley December 4, 2012 at 01:23 am
When there is equality for all, WE ALL WIN!
Sarah Creeley December 4, 2012 at 01:32 am
Hi Frank, You make a good point. The Supreme Court needs to take this case to come out against Measure 8 and give equal rights to everyone.
Frank Geefay December 4, 2012 at 02:04 am
You both totally mist the point. This has nothing to do with sex or religion; it has to do with having equal rights as heterosexuals marriages to visit a spouse in the hospital, to make medical decisions, inheritance of property and assets without paying tax as with married couples, to pay taxes like married couples, tax exemptions, discounts for married couples, etc. There is a long list of legal, social, and economic benefits married couples enjoy that gays don't because they cannot be legally married. That is what they want. They already have the right to sex so this is not at issue.
john currie December 4, 2012 at 03:26 am
Frank.. thats called civil union isnt it....isnt that already common practice.. oh yeah you want to force me to accept your lifestyle.. and for marriage.. marriage is hard enough not being belittled and disresected like this ..
Frank Geefay December 4, 2012 at 04:19 am
Perhaps you need to know the difference between a civil union and a marriage.
Only a few states have tried to implement civil unions. In order for it fairly to contain all the same legal, business and tax qualified benefits all federal, state, regional, local laws, ordinances and businesses involving the term marriage must be altered to include civil union. Civil Unions are also not recognized by most countries thus creating problems for civil union couples abroad. Every time something is changed for marriage it must be changed for civil unions. It create a very expensive and complicated series of systems to support and maintain. Any business or organization that asked whether you are married must change their documents and computer databases to include civil union. Since marriage has been a long standing tradition this has already been built into the many systems that exist. It is a matter of practicality to broaden the definition of marriage which adds little additional cost and complications to an existing system. During these hard economic times what governed and business can afford to spend the additional resources and money to implement a civil union. This is why the gay community does not favor civil unions. I'm not part of the gay community but believe they have equal rights just as you and I in this country were we pride ourselves on freedom and equality for all.
Frank Geefay December 6, 2012 at 01:07 am
I do not subscribe to siblings or 1st cousins marrying because of genetic problems that their children may acquire, not because of any moral beliefs. I have no opinion about the other examples but would not oppose such marriages. This is a great country that allows and protects diversity. I subscribe to that belief. I do not have to believe in a personal's beliefs or practices in order to defend their rights to freedom and the pursuit of happiness. Even though you would try to deny me the right to my beliefs, I will defend your right to believe as you will as long as you don't force me not to do something that I believe in, in other words deny me my legal right to freedom and the pursuit of happiness.
If you believe that God gave man the freedom to chose between good and evil then why do you, just a mortal and sinful man, wish to override the will of God?
Frank Geefay December 6, 2012 at 02:04 am
RMordell, I think we are at a point where we are unable to come to common grounds. I respect your beliefs and wish you well because I feel that you are a good person. Let us agree at least to respectfully disagree. This is a great country where you can disagree yet still respect and even Love one another.
I think you will agree with me that we all need more Love. The greatest teachers that ever walked this earth taught the wisdom of Lover. For with Love comes more Love as will as peace, grace, respect, and understanding.
Bud Burlison December 6, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Hey... What happened to eddie? You don't suppose he "raptured" on up. I mean he was really getting excited there. Nah... Probably not.
Frank Geefay December 6, 2012 at 04:40 pm
Then I guess heterosexuals should also not get married so that they will have more time to be creative. I don't believe that you just stated a reason for people not to get married.
As I said let us respectfully disagree. I am glad to hear you are not against gays. As I said I believe you are basically a good person and I respect your right to believe differently than me. But I do not agree that you should force gays not to have a choice about marriage just as you and I have that choice. Whether gays are what they are due to environmental or genetic factors is not relevant to the marriage discussion. They are what they are and as you say you are not against gays however they became what they are.
Gramma Tink December 6, 2012 at 10:21 pm
I am always saddened by people who advocate loving one another regardless of beliefs and in the next breath can only insult the ones they disagree with. America was once known for the values of respecting every human being, treating kindly and respectfully in word and deed. The bullying within this section only reveals those who hold the least amount of love and true tolerance for people of differing beliefs and ideas. This is the behavior that most frequently turns me away from people....and puts their spouted beliefs most at suspect with me. They give themselves away by the language and disrespect they hold for anyone who opposes their views. I remember sweeter times. An era gone by, I fear.
Frank Geefay December 6, 2012 at 11:13 pm
I agree with your sentiments but I'm afraid that America has always had groups of people that needed a reason to hate others who were different. Strangely enough most have been Christian groups; strange because Christ their savior taught nothing but love, empathy, and charity for those who were different or outcasts, the lowest of the low whether they be Sumatrans, lepers, or prostitutes. Not sure what their savior saved. Thankfully not all Christians missed the point of their great teacher's lessons.
None December 6, 2012 at 11:27 pm
I’ve been on the planet for a long time and it is with a great degree of concern that I view the direction of any commentary we see today on any social issue of the day, we have No Christmas Tree, No Thanksgiving Calibration, the Celebration and Easter has turned into a Fertility Rite. Where is our respect for tradition and traditional family values? It seems that we have none. If an individual decides to go to an event without wearing clothes, they are only expressing their individual preferences for the day, but if someone has children with them, should they be expected to just accept this activity? Today, any observation of traditional family values is entirely forgotten and to try and bring up a family with any acceptance of tradition is under attack. I think it’s a sad commentary on our society. So, what if Frank decides to live with John, or if Mary wants to live with Ann, so what? I just find it out of my norm to view it as totally acceptable to a civilized society compared to what I have grown up with, why is the traditional family and their values no longer accepted. Does acceptance of this “Old Fashioned” lifestyle make me a bad person? Do I have to accept anything that anyone else decides to do with their life? Will they be as tolerant of my choices? It doesn’t look that way to me.
Frank Geefay December 7, 2012 at 12:33 am
I see absolutely nothing wrong with old fashion family values where Sunday at church, Christmas and Easter with family are practiced as they were 50 years ago. The problem is that there are those who want to impose those same values upon everyone else. There must be room for diversity. Not everyone has to believe in the same values as another. I believe that I should respect diversity in personal as well as their family values as long as they are not forced upon me. We need to Love and respect one another in spite of our differences. To force by legislative law or otherwise Christian moral values upon Muslims or visa verse is not allowing one the right to the pursuit of happiness. So more power to you if you practice old fashion family values as long as you allow me the freedomw to practice my personal values. It is not your job to stop me from committing sins against myself. It is your job to take care that you don't commit sins of your own which is a full time job.
Eggbert December 7, 2012 at 01:59 am
In the interest of accuracy: what we now know as the Christian rite "Easter" was a fertility celebration first, which the Christians co-opted for their own ends: http://www.religioustolerance.org/easter1.htm.
If in fact Easter is under any such threat (which presumes facts not in evidence), it would be nothing new - just a return to an earlier tradition. As to the latter part of Mr. Johnson's comment: of course no one can force you to feel about an individual, or pairing of individuals, differently than you naturally do. When, however, your "feelings" cross into the realm of discriminatory action or inaction, it becomes a constitutional matter.
Sharon Levin December 8, 2012 at 02:17 am
I never understand why people who say they want to 'protect marriage' don't focus on divorce. Why not make divorce illegal. It seems to be all about keeping people who love each other apart, rather than making people who hate each other stay together. (and yes, I'm being completely facetious about making divorce illegal, I'm just trying to make a point that this has nothing to do with 'protecting' marriage and everything to do with not allowing everyone equal rights).
L.A. Chung December 8, 2012 at 02:34 am
I have deleted @rmondell's last comment from our site. Please do not place links on Patch that solicit funds.
Gramma Tink December 10, 2012 at 03:44 am
Freely sharing an opinion in public or in private is NOT "imposing values on another". It is free speech, and it is being censored. Free speech allows for offense - it doesn't avoid it. In fact, if no one is offended, or allowed to be, it's not free speech at all. Free speech comes with responsibility to be respectful of the dignity of every human being, including those who vehemently disagree: avoiding insult, profanity, belitting, name-calling, villifying, brandizing. Kind but religious people are often made victims of these. My religious friends are some of the kindest people I know. I've enjoyed some lively discussions that have not been reduced to ugly behavior by either side of the gay marriage or gay lifestyle issue. I've seen Christians speak with sensitivity and courtesty, only to be disallowed from speaking another word through the use of well-practiced interruption and insults. That's emotional bullying, it's censorship and it's not an exchange of ideas...and the very opposite of free speech in a civilized community. I'm getting old now, but I've seen far more self-control and gentleness practiced by Christians in the 40 years since the gay issue became a public one...but that's just my experience. I know there are religious people who have been vile, but I would never consider them Christians because I know true Jesus followers are known by their love. However, true love still speaks, even if the response is anger. Just look at the life of Jesus.
Alvy Singer December 11, 2012 at 12:18 am
Very good point.

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