A Patch survey of influential California partisans showed Democrats uniformly awarding victory in Tuesday's debate to President Obama, while only 10 out of 18 Republicans surveyed said Mitt Romney was the clear winner.
On the Democratic side, 12 of 14 said Obama was the winner by a wide margin while two said he won by a slim margin. Five out of 18 Republicans said Romney won by a wide margin, five said he won by a slim margin, five said it was a draw, and three said Obama won by a slim margin.
The Patch Red and Blue California surveys are not a scientific random sample of any larger population, but rather an effort to listen to a swath of influential local Republican and Democratic activists, party leaders and elected officials in California.
Other points of interest from the survey:
- While only three Republicans said Obama won the debate, 12 of the 18 surveyed said the media would declare Obama the winner.
- By contrast, 13 out of 14 Democrats said the media would portray Obama as the winner, with one saying the media would suggest it was a draw.
- In written statements, several Republicans said the key moment for conservatives would be the discussion of whether Obama portrayed the attacks on the U.S. Embassy as an act of terrorism the morning after they occurred. Three respondents suggest Obama was lying in his claims that he did say the attacks were terrorism, two chided moderator Candy Crowley for backing up his claim. Seven out of 18 GOP respondents mentioned the Libya exchange as a key moment in the debate for conservatives, though only one said it would be a key moment for swing voters.
- Five out of 14 Democrats mentioned the Libya exchange as a key moment for swing voters and three out of 14.
- One GOP respondent wrote: "you'd have to be brain dead or willfully stupid to think that reelecting [Obama] is a good thing, but California is full of both types, so the First Failure will carry the state and we will reelect Fineswine."
- Nine out of 18 Republicans said they "strongly agree" or "somewhat agree" that Romney's performance would help him win votes in California, while six said they were "neutral" about the statement. Three said they somewhat disagreed.
- Thirteen out of 14 Democratic responders said they "strongly agree" or "somewhat agree" that Obama's performance would help him win votes in California, with one saying he was "neutral."
Obama and Romney next meet on Monday at Lynn University, Boca Raton, FL, at 6 p.m. Pacific Time. Stay tuned to Patch for continuing coverage of the presidential debates.
Patch will be conducting Red California and Blue California surveys throughout 2012 in hopes of determining the true sentiment of Republicans and Democrats on the ground in California. If you are an activist, party leader or elected official and would like to take part in a weekly surveys that lasts just a few minutes, please email Sandra Oshiro.
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/10/17/1030581/at-last-nights-debate-romney-told-31-myths-in-41-minutes/?mobile=nc
He talked about planned parenthood more than anything else. He was trying to get women to come back to him. I'm a woman and he doesn't represent anything I care about! I will not vote for Obama!!
Google Gas Price, Dec 2008, Consumer Reports to see gas was $1.61 at year end. Remember Obama saying that under his plan, energy rates would necessarilly skyrocket and he would bankrupt the coal industry! Google this! We are NOT better off than 4 years ago and Obama MUST go!!!
Either one could have taken control of that debate, given the openings that were supplied by the opponent. I was thinking of retorts far superior to the ones that came at the end of a statement or question. The reality is that neither one of these guys will ever break the deadlock that prevails in Congress with the members more interested in sabotaging the other party's plans than helping the country. We need a leader who doesn't sink to the petty hissy fit that this debate was, but looks to a clear, concise plan that has actual details, not vague promises without substance. These guys looked like 2 idiots fighting over the next song to play on the Titanic.
America cannot take another four more years of his deceit. We need a true leader in the White House. Someone with experience...Someone who is succesful in running businesses...someone who will create jobs ...someone who really cares about America's future. Mitt Romney is that man.
How about the guy sitting in our white house He said he would cut the deflect in half , he's added 6 trillion to it He said I will get out od get mo, he started another war Gas prices have doubled Food has gone up by 30% The dollar has been de rated twice 23 million out of work Jobless rate is at 7.8 which is a lie, California was late getting in there report so they did not count one of the biggest states in the US he said it was a tape, and lied about that, on his watch 4 of our top people were killed This man was a community organizer 550 thousand women have lost there jobs, the black jobs rate is 14.8% He has spent 4% of his time at the white house, he's played more golf golfed off more than the last three POTUS It cost the tax payers 100 K just to walk his dog lasts year, every green company he's given 90 billion dollars to has failed,,,, gee I wonder how many fireman police and teachers could have kept there jobs He has not had a budget in 4 years, he just keeps printing out the cash, yet were did 6 tillion dollars go,,,anyone,,, anyone,,,,Hmmmm They have had the senate and the house sense 2006, polosi, reid, k now obama They have all become millionairs on our watch At least romney made his, they stole theres from all the inside trading and knowing what to invest in,,, Please,,,,, Romney told lies
I trust Obama would keep the SCOTUS balanced, understanding the impacts of NOT keeping the SCCOTUS balanced would be a disaster for our rights and legal system.
If NOT, think about who you need to vote for (whether you like him or not) to ensure that our Civil Rights are not trounced by the GOP. and yes, while the term war on women is silly, all you need to do is Google how many anti-abortion/person-hood/anti-contraception laws were passed since 2010 by the GOP, to see what they would be up to with Romney as president, and a lopsided Supreme Court. I don't trust Romney to understand that packing the Court with conservatives is a bad idea, and leaves the court and our laws corruptible.
The above site is a review of a book by an Italian who is a professor at the University of Chicago. He has written a book that appears to be, from the review, exactly what is wrong with our present economic model (thanks mainly to corporate backing of candidates!) and how it might be fixed. The review itself is eye-opening and if read with an open mind by the responders on this blog, especially the Republicans, might actually inform the readers about where our trouble lies and how it might be fixed.
years of Obama. He's swiftly bringing America to her knees. Like the bumper sticker says - "OBAMA - Why Stupid People Shouldn't Vote.'
This election is more to me about civil rights. I do not believe there is a war on women, however, I do believe that white men are trying to reclaim their former hold on this country starting with getting an African American out of the White House.
I find it hard to believe that so many people are happy with the way the last 4 years have gone and are willing to vote for another 4 years of the same. But, that's what makes America what it is. I'm an American, nothing more and nothing less. I also believe that our Government gets enough of our money and should stop spending more than it takes in. YES! STOP OVER SPENDING! I'm not a class of people nor am I a gender or a color, I'm just an American! Besides that, There is no such thing as a fair share, those that pay the most get the least. How is that fair? Yet, people think they should give more....my question would be Why should they? And, What will happen when they have no more to give? No people, we have bigger issues than same sex marriage, contraception and taxing the rich. It's called Freedom and Liberty. Just my thoughts
We live in California. California is a blue state through and through. Romney will NOT win California. Therefore, a vote for Obama is really a wasted vote. A vote for Green Party candidate Jill Stein helps to create a concrete political alternative. If Jill Stein receives just 5% of the vote the Green Party qualifies for federal matching funds. That would be a game changer. I will be vote for Jill Stein! http://www.jillstein.org/
However, if Pete Mott wins the mayoral race, his seat will be up as well. At that point, the city council would appoint someone to fill the seat.
Cobb and Manski are trying to keep the Green Party as part of Obama’s veal pen. Now Jill Stein may be what soviets used to call a useful_idiot or she may be in on the plan to make the Green Party a tool to corral progressives into supporting Greens in “safe” states and supporting Democrats/Obama in competitive states, but either way, Ms. Stein, her political mentor Cobb and her campaign manager Manski cannot be trusted.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/18/us/politics/questions-and-answers-on-the-benghazi-attack.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/benghazi-attack-becomes-political-ammunition/2012/10/19/e1ad82ae-1a2d-11e2-bd10-5ff056538b7c_story.html